What is free software? by Richard Stallman

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Re: What is free software? by Richard Stallman

Postby MIG29pilot » Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:47 pm

Still reading it?
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Re: What is free software? by Richard Stallman

Postby IAHM-COL » Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:53 pm

I read it. But I don't know if you got the homework right. None of the quotes you bring "of me" showed me IAHM-COL insulting no one, by no logical standards.
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Re: What is free software? by Richard Stallman

Postby MIG29pilot » Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:57 pm

IAHM-COL wrote:None of the quotes you bring "of me" showed me IAHM-COL insulting no one, by no logical standards.

Err... Could you please say that again?
Also, you seemed to fail to read that that applied to both of you.
I admit you weren't as rude as Jabber, but you were still in the same [s]boat[/s] plane
Hey, where is the strikethrough feature?
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Re: What is free software? by Richard Stallman

Postby IAHM-COL » Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:04 pm

yes. the {s}{ /s} feature does not work. as [youtube][/youtube] does not work either.
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1. You were given the homework to bring examples of IAHM-COL insulting people. Core developers or not.
2. you brought the quotes you first found
3. I failed to see as insults any of the quotes you have cited OF ME, so far.

I gave you clear examples of someone calling me unscrupulous. An insult. It implies I am dishonest and / or unfair. I dare to disagree I am.
The other example of someone else calling me an asshole. A major insult. Technically a word that should be a no-no in the devel list and use in any context there should ellicit immediate controversy over language -- which it didn't - maybe because the person only implied an initiated the usage of the word. Yet the message was clear.

I am not defending JWocky. I am defending myself. And you can sit us in the same boat, because coincidentally, JWocky was banned indirectly- -- I was the target of the action.
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Re: What is free software? by Richard Stallman

Postby MIG29pilot » Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:08 pm

Another funny thing. I don't recall you making and "Holy Wars" against "totalitarian dictatorial" moderators until the moderators started moderating the "flame wars" in the forum. Funny that.
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Re: What is free software? by Richard Stallman

Postby MIG29pilot » Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:09 pm

[quote]I am not defending JWock, I am defending myself[quote]
Well I'm banging both of you.
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Re: What is free software? by Richard Stallman

Postby MIG29pilot » Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:09 pm

Right on the chin
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Re: What is free software? by Richard Stallman

Postby Omega » Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:10 pm

All the quotes you posted are barely considered insults. Additionally, they were not even targeted to you, so you have no right to come in here and talk in such an uncivilized manner to people whom you've never met.

Your posts today both here and on the FG forum contain far more explicit insults.

Also, you need to study your English some more. "Prove" does not mean "made void" or "showed to be untrue"

You are telling me this is not racist?

Well I'm banging both of you. ... Right on the chin

Grow up.

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Re: What is free software? by Richard Stallman

Postby IAHM-COL » Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:10 pm

totalitarian measures? yes, I've seen some of those been taken recently, less than 24 hours ago.
Dictatorship? yes. Do you remember yourself voting for Curt for uber-leader of the community? Or did you notice that all you got from the closed circle of developers were "news" -- old decisions upon which none of us have any saying?
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Re: What is free software? by Richard Stallman

Postby jwocky » Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:01 pm

By definition a dictator is a non-elected ruler who oppresses freedom in his country, community or wherever and abuses with the help of loyal followers privileges of office to ensure his power.

StuartC gave up on the neutrality, a moderator has to keep, to delete posts and ban me for political convenience. That makes him by definition a dictator's helper.
Thorsten tried to establish himself as the super-gatekeeper over FGADDON, the one who decides whose planes are distributes and whose are not.

Of course, you are right in one thing, Mig29pilot. The term "wannabe" is definitively not usable any longer after they have established their power, now they fulfil the definition completely.

Now, on another issue: Yes, this is a free speech board. Everyone is allowed to speak his opinion and to speak it without concerns about "political correctness" or in accordance with any "political manifesto" as in the flightgear-forum where you get banned if you don't bow to their little handbook. I know, it's a new concept for you. But stay around, maybe you get the hang for freedom. Because here, if you say something politically inconvenient, you will not get banned. We give you all the chances to embarrass yourself you want, by quoting the lies people know already as lies, by running out when ask for concrete evidence for your claims and by your ridiculous claim to beat sense in us when the only nonsensical thing we did was telling the truth. Who could know, truth is a crime now? As you admitted some posts ago. I guess, that was an accident because you didn't consult with your political remote controller?
Free speech can never be achieved by dictatorial measures!


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