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Re: Bell UH-1

Postby IAHM-COL » Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:39 pm

Just to make sure, I can comment-out that block and try out again.
If that does nt work it might be logical to keep looking for a cause...
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Re: Bell UH-1

Postby IAHM-COL » Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:26 pm

@bomber
You are correct.

If I outcomment that section in the set.xml I get Joystick back, but I loose all control on the collective (keyboard and Joystick alike)

So at least you are up to something.
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Re: Bell UH-1

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Re: Bell UH-1

Postby IAHM-COL » Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:52 pm

Hi @bomber

I use a custom Joystick configuration file, and I am wondering if there is any negative interference with the code

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Re: Bell UH-1

Postby bomber » Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:10 pm

Not having any experience of using a custom joystick file, I don't know how it's called up and used..

Thursday I get my joystick working, hopefully we can work out way through it.
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Re: Bell UH-1

Postby bomber » Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:42 pm

Initial findings are I've got no joystick control either.... So the investigation begins.
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Re: Bell UH-1

Postby IAHM-COL » Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:45 pm

bomber wrote:Initial findings are I've got no joystick control either.... So the investigation begins.

That's progress in the right direction

bomber wrote:at present in the -set.xml file I do this...

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    <input include="keyboard-T4T.xml">
      <joysticks>
         <js>
            <axis n="2">
               <desc>Throttle</desc>
               <binding>
                  <command>property-scale</command>
                  <property>fdm/jsbsim/fcs/collective-cmd-norm</property>
               </binding>
            </axis>
         </js>
      </joysticks>
   </input>


I'm struggling to find a working alternative

Simon




When I comment this out like this

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    <input include="keyboard-T4T.xml">
      <!--<joysticks>
         <js>
            <axis n="2">
               <desc>Throttle</desc>
               <binding>
                  <command>property-scale</command>
                  <property>fdm/jsbsim/fcs/collective-cmd-norm</property>
               </binding>
            </axis>
         </js>
      </joysticks>-->
   </input>


I regain my joystick, but it does so without throttle control (not even keyboard throttle control)
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Re: Bell UH-1

Postby bomber » Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:35 pm

Does anyone know of any plane specific joysticks ,?
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Re: Bell UH-1

Postby IAHM-COL » Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:15 pm

I dont know of any
However, I am thinking it might make sense to reverse the collective-throtle via a jsbsim paramater, and link that instead

Such as the throtle of the joystick controls the throtle as in any plane, but on the helies that gets translated to a property inverted, that gets used in the fdm

Not that the idea of a Josytick plane specific is invalid, just that I think the fdm method might solve this and have also some sense?
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Re: Bell UH-1

Postby bomber » Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:57 pm

If that was all we had to do....

We have to stop the joystick from operating the actual throttle as well.
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